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Updated Thursday Ratings: NFL Football Leads CBS to Victory; Solid Return for ‘Will & Grace’

THURSDAY FAST AFFILIATE RATING RESULTS

What follows are the fast affiliate results for Tuesday, September 26, 2017 broken out by network and by each half-hour.

-Total Viewers:

CBS: 1.046 million, ABC: 6.64, NBC: 6.45, Fox: 3.26, CW: 1.39

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 3.0 rating/11 share, ABC: 1.9/ 7, NBC: 1.6/ , Fox: 0.9/ 4, CW: 0.3/ 1

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8:00 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy (season premiere)
Viewers: 8.32 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/10 (#1t)

CBS – NFL Kickoff
Viewers: 9.31 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/10 (#1t)

NBC – Superstore (season premiere)
Viewers: 4.57 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 5 (#3)

Fox – Gotham
Viewers: 2.96 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 4 (#4)

CW – Penn & Teller: Foot Us
Viewers: 1.75 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#5)

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8:30 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy (season premiere)
Viewers: 7.97 million (#2), A18-49: 2.2/ 9 (#2)

CBS – NFL Football (Chicago at Green Bay)
Viewers: 12.05 million (#1), A18-49: 3.3/13 (#1)

NBC – The Good Place
Viewers: 4.62 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 5 (#3)

Fox – Gotham
Viewers: 2.62 million (#4), A18-49: 0.8/ 4 (#4)

CW – Penn & Teller: Foot Us
Viewers: 1.68 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#5)

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9:00 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 7.61 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 8 (#3)

CBS – NFL Football (Chicago at Green Bay)
Viewers: 11.57 million (#1), A18-49: 3..4/12 (#1)

NBC – Will & Grace (season premiere/return)
Viewers: 10.04 million (#2), A18-49: 2.9/11 (#2)

Fox – The Orville
Viewers: 3.58 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#4)

CW – Whose Line is it Anyway?
Viewers: 1.05 million (#5), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#5)

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9:30 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy
Viewers: 7.89 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 8 (#2)

CBS – NFL Football (Chicago at Green Bay)
Viewers: 9.45 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/10 (#1)

NBC – Good News (season premiere)
Viewers: 5.12 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 5 (#3)

Fox – The Orville
Viewers: 3.88 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#4)

CW – Whose Line is it Anyway?
Viewers: 1.09 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

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10:00 p.m.

ABC – How To Get Away with Murder (season premiere)
Viewers: 4.20 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

CBS – NFL Football (Chicago at Green Bay)
Viewers: 10.98 million (#1), A18-49: 3.3/12 (#1)

NBC – Chicago Fire (season premiere)
Viewers: 7.28 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 6 (#2)

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10:30 p.m.

ABC – How To Get Away with Murder (season premiere)
Viewers: 3.85 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)

CBS – NFL Football (Chicago at Green Bay)
Viewers: 9.42 million (#1), A18-49: 3.0/12 (#1)

NBC – Chicago Fire (season premiere)
Viewers: 7.07 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 6 (#2)

Source: Nielsen Media Research

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  1. Boy, even the best isn’t that many. I’ve never really looked at ratings before but when the numbers are statistically extrapolated, and figuring about 128M adult 18-49 Americans, not as many people watch TV as I thought.

  2. Great start for Will & Grace and Chicago Fire that’s where NBC must rebuild Thursdays around but these three other losers gotta go especially Flop News. The news wasn’t great at all for that show it was more like fake news which Will & Grace referenced last night. LOL! Seriously that drop was bad and Chicago Fire probably starts out higher if the lead-in was more decent.

    Great News has got to go and with Marlon getting renewed this might be NBC’s only chance to have any comedy hold the lead-in better but it won’t be ready until late in the season at the earliest or another summer run. The Good Place needs to go too honestly. Superstore should be gone too but it’s gonna stay until it hits enough episodes because it’s getting closer to syndication now.

    NBC needs to absolutely clean house on comedies next season and start with fresh comedies and I would suggest rebooting another multi-cam comedy next fall from the 80s or 90s and that might really help them out in the other hour and find a really good solid quality multi-cam pilot with some huge stars in it.

    Chicago Fire dominated How to Get Away with Murder so that’s a good sing there for NBC as well.

    • I agree NBC needs more broad multi cam comedies. I don’t know why networks, especially fox, are turning away from them. But what is considered compatible for a show that has a nostalgic audience from 11 plus years ago?

      Chicago Fire is a good fit at 10PM. I say leave it there. More so that Shonda land has sprung a leak.

      I’ll be curious what Will and Grace does next week as Greys goes back to just 8PM. All the reviews I saw shooting across facebook and on review sites were glowing so everybody must have enjoyed it.

      I am nervous about FOX. I guess Orville will get a second season the same way Scream Queens did. But of course that doesn’t guarantee a season 3. Gotham is really low and hte CW shows aren’t even back yet. At this rate, I see Gotham being Friday bound at some point sadly.

      • I agree with both of you guys NBC needs more broad multi-cam comedies they should even consider going all the way with them from top to bottom this will help setup their multi-cam presence that they lost in the 11 years on the network.

        Will & Grace will be interesting next week as Grey’s won’t be against it as I think Grey’s possible kept it from getting an even better number and Scandal is lightweight compared to GA. The Patriots are on Thursday Night Football next week so that could affect things a little bit but overall competition is lighter this week than last week. I think the positive reviews from all over the place and people being happy that they’re back might keep Will & Grace in a good position to hold pretty well next week.

        Yeah FOX is a little bit nerve wrecking because Orville could be the next Scream Queens and Arrow could bit its audience in two weeks. Gotham is down to dangerous levels like to the point where it might not be brought back next year as it’s at CW levels and Supernatural could affect it even further. Yeah I wouldn’t disagree with a possible Friday move for Gotham in its future.

        • All the ABC shows are lightweight. Gray’s is far, far, removed from its heyday and the other two Shonda shows never did well (well maybe the first episode of HTGAWM…)

        • I actually think that would be the right idea if they somehow go an exclusive multi-cam block and put their single-cams somewhere else. I think next year they can run with another season of Superstore to get it in syndication then get rid of it in 2019 or 2020 for a final season so that means they can start with another revival and go with Marlon or a new multi-cam battle over a slot. Then in 2019 they can go exclusive multi-cam on Thursdays.

          • Your words bring fear and foreboding to my heart… 😉

            Endless renewals of a show with no audience to feed the syndication arm (albeit with something that won’t make money), “new” shows being revivals…

            What a dire picture of our future TV.

            Almost as scary as what we currently have… 😉 🙁

            On single-cam vs multi-cam, it really makes very little difference as the problem is that people don’t find most of them funny or entertaining. I don’t know where that idea came from that a comedy had to be “single-cam” to be worthy (although I never liked laugh tracks even when they’re real laughter).

      • It always puzzled me about why some of the networks turned their backs on multi-cams especially when single-cams results have been so low with hits very far and few in between. There’s been more bombs in that format than winners. NBC has a real chance to reestablish themselves there in the comedy game by really taking advantage of W&G and bringing back the multi-cam hits to their network. I actually heard FOX is getting back into the multi-cam game next year with a Welcome Back, Kotter style comedy so hopefully FOX commits to promoting it. It would’ve helped FOX though to bring back LMS this season.

        Nice job for Chicago Fire and Shonda has sprung a leak. I think W&G is going to hold better than some people expected. FOX is looking scary right now as they still have no real presence of people watching primetime TV on their network right now outside of Wednesdays right now and maybe Mondays with The Gifted.

        • They do love Fake-Edgy shows, which are all “single cam” since they’ve decided that was cool somehow…

          I put “single cam” in quotation marks because it’s a complete misnomer. No “single cam” show is shot with only one camera. There’s at least two, often three.

          • Fake-edgy is the key word here there’s a huge difference from the cable/streaming single-cams over the network ones. The network ones are not edgy and super fake and too niche. They look like really bad cheap comedy movies or dramas.

            Single-cams were better back in the day like the 60s and 70s because they mirrored a multi-cam they had that feel to them with the laugh-track they used. They also didn’t pretend it was more family-friendly fun.

            I swear only the geeks like these single-cams, people in my real-life barely watch them or heard of the ones that are on air today.

            Yeah anybody who ever been on a movie set we all know that multiple cameras are used not just one and single-cams are shot the same way. You can see it too when the cameras switch quickly from one character to another so you can clearly see them using multiple cameras like 2 or 3 of them. Nobody makes a program or movie with just one camera unless it’s under budget like The Blair Witch Project or something or a homemade YouTube movie.

            • I see you do know how movies and TV are made. 🙂

              Not sure how you see it when you cut from one character to another (I probably am not understanding what you meant 😉 ). You’d see it in cuts to the same character as the positions will be exactly the same (if the cut wasn’t used to speed up the scene), but frankly, it’s something that, unless you stop the picture, you really can’t feel at full speed.

              Single-cam comedies all have bad ratings. Only some critics, bad writers and their executive buds seem to love them…

              • Yep I’ve worked on movie and TV sets before many times so I know how they’re filmed that’s why I always laughed at the whole single-cam term. I don’t even know where it came from anyways. It may have come from them using one main camera to film things but they have exterior shots from the side as well.

                You’re right in real-time you can’t see it unless you pause but they are using 2-3 cameras for each shot. Like the next time you watch a comedy movie you can probably see what I’m talking about if you slow it down. The shots are being taken from different angles and sometimes closeups. You can’t do all of that with one camera that’s common sense that’s why I don’t know how people have gotten fooled with that all of these years.

                I honestly think they just want to separate single-cams and multi-cams but it’s really the same shit excuse my language except that one looks like a movie and the other is filmed like a live play with a studio audience watching in the background for most shots.

                Yeah single-cams have always had bad ratings and have never had high viewership either. There’s only a select few who like them like you said and they’ve been trying to push them on us for the last 20 years and it hasn’t worked.

                • I believe it comes from the old days when movie cameras were extremely big, extremely heavy and extremely expensive and most movies only had one.

                  You also have the hybrids, like How I met Your Mother, which was shot without an audience (ie. like a “single-camera show”) but had the laugh track added in and generally kept to the conventions and look of a sitcom.

                  Steven Bochco, way back tried to launch the “Dramedy” which might be the much more interesting ancestor of the ‘single camera show”. The only one that worked was Doogie Howser, although I’ll single out Hooperman which was interesting, but would have worked better as an hour show.

                  Today “single camera comedy” often means “fake edgy comedy” where every cliche of bad writing is used relentlessly in order to make audiences flee… 😉

                  • That’s true the equipment was heavier back then and more expensive.

                    Yeah How I Met Your Mother is the best example of a hybrid comedy that looked like a multi-cam but was shot more like the old school single-cams and actually used the laugh track because they didn’t film in front of a studio audience. That’s why I liked HIMYM because I always thought the network sitcoms that wanted to be in the single-cam format should’ve been shot like HIMYM. They should’ve never went all the way and made it feel like a movie this is what alienated audiences and made it have a niche feel especially with that fake edgy element. They’re definitely fleeing from those comedies all the time just like they do when Great News comes on after Will & Grace. LOL!

                    Dramedies were always fine even the traditional hour long dramedies like Eight Is Enough back in the 70s which used a laugh-track as well then they went with those half-hour dramedies like Doogie Howser and I consider Wonder Years a dramedy as well.

                    Networks should’ve just stayed with the dramedies instead of interfering the good they had with their multi-cams. Now in days you have a bunch of poorly made multi-cams because they continue to waste more money into single-cams they aren’t giving them a good financial return.

                    • Yes, Wonder Years is a good candidate for that mini-genre (or whatever is the right way to call it…)

                      Single-cams are loved of executives because they get positive feedback from their peers from making those fake-edgy shows and that is more important today in Hollywood than making money (incredible but sadly true).

                      I’m trying to define what “fake-edgy” is (I know it when I see it but still…) and so far one thing they all have in common is that they feature characters that are completely devoid of anything resembling humanity. Their characters are caricatures bordering on the cartoonish (or perhaps straight within cartoonish) and are not recognizable human beings even though they’re played by real actors. Perhaps that what The Simpsons played by live actors would be like…

                      Thanks for the interesting conversations BTW. 🙂

    • I’ll be a lot less sanguine. Will and Grace was solid (just so) and Chicago PD only looks good compared to the road kill that is HTGAWM (self-sabotage by Channing Dungey).

      I like the Flop News moniker. 🙂

      Totally agree also on the need to start fresh. The networks have needed to do that for at least 10 years, but have instead kept renewing tons of flops.

  3. HTGAWM continues to dissolve into nothingness.

    Will and Grace has a solid return, which interestingly didn’t seem to held the lead-in or the lead-out which both flopped. My guess is W&G will ebb considerably, but we’ll have to see. The sad thing is even if it does, it won’t prevent more of the same anti-creative decisions at the networks…

    The Orville is almost down to Family Guy levels and is yet another Seth MacFarlane flop (not difficult to predict back then…)

    Gothem is a disaster zone, again as predicted (I recall heated debates elsewhere however…)

    Dark days for network TV indeed… 🙁

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