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Updated Wednesday Ratings: ‘Dynasty’ Reboot is a Bust on The CW


What follows are the fast affiliate results for Wednesday, October 24, 2017 broken out by network and by each half-hour.

-Total Viewers:
Fox: 14.63, CBS: 6.97, NBC: 5.72, ABC: 4.70, CW: 1.17

-Adults 18-49:
Fox: 3.9 rating/15 share, CBS: 1.2/ 5, ABC: 1.1/ 4, NBC: 1.0/ 4, CW: 0.4/ 1


8:00 p.m.

ABC – The Goldbergs (100th episode)
Viewers: 5.41 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 6 (#3)

CBS – Survivor
Viewers: 8.25 million (#2), A18-49: 1.7/ 7 (#2)

NBC – The Blacklist
Viewers: 5.33 million (#4), A18-49: 0.9/ 4 (#4)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 13.64 million (#1), A18-49: 3.3/14 (#1)

CW – Riverdale
Viewers: 1.68 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 3 (#5)


8:30 p.m.

ABC – Speechless
Viewers: 4.14 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#3)

CBS – Survivor
Viewers: 8.04 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 6 (#2)

NBC – The Blacklist
Viewers: 5.05 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#4)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 16.32 million (#1), A18-49: 4.2/16 (#1)

CW – Riverdale
Viewers: 1.54 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#5)


9:00 p.m.

ABC – Modern Family
Viewers: 5.91 million (#3), A18-49: 1.7/ 6 (#2)

Viewers: 6.90 million (#2), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#4)

NBC – Law & Order: SVU
Viewers: 5.54 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#3)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 17.15 million (#1), A18-49: 4.6/16 (#1)

CW – Dynasty
Viewers: 755,000(#5), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#5)


9:30 p.m.

ABC – American Housewife
Viewers: 4.72 million (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 5 (#2)

Viewers: 6.87 million (#2), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#4)

NBC – Law & Order: SVU
Viewers: 5.92 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 15.36 million (#1), A18-49: 4.2/15 (#1)

CW – Dynasty
Viewers: 696,000(#5), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#5)


10:00 p.m.

ABC – Designated Survivor
Viewers: 4.24 million (#4), A18-49: 0.8/ 3 (#4)

CBS – Crimianl Minds
Viewers: 5.90 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)

NBC – Chicago PD
Viewers: 6.21 million (#2), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 13.15 million (#1), A18-49: 3.7/14 (#1)


10:30 p.m.

ABC – Designated Survivor
Viewers: 3.79 million (#4), A18-49: 0.7/ 3 (#4)

CBS – Crimianl Minds
Viewers: 5.78 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)

NBC – Chicago PD
Viewers: 6.04 million (#2), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2)

Fox – The World Series, Game 2 (Astors 7, Dodgers 6)
Viewers: 12.13 million (#1), A18-49: 3.5/14 (#1)

Source: Nielsen Media Research


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    · At 8:00 PM, SURVIVOR averaged 8.15m (up from 8.12m), 1.7 in A18-49 and 2.3 in A25-54. SURVIVOR was the night’s #1 non-sports program in viewers and tied as the highest rated non-sports program in A18-49.

    · At 9:00 PM, SEAL TEAM averaged 6.88m, 1.0 in A18-49 and 1.5 in A25-54. SEAL TEAM was the night’s #1 scripted program in viewers.

    · At 10:00 PM, CRIMINAL MINDS averaged 5.88m, 1.0 in A18-49 (nc) and 1.5 in A25-54 (nc).

    · For the night, CBS was second to Game 2 of the World Series in viewers (6.97m), A18-49 (1.2) and A25-54 (1.8).

  2. Kind of surprised at the World Series numbers they’re pretty good so far but I haven’t watched a single pitch of this series yet. Both cities are huge markets so it makes sense so FOX for the 3rd year in a row gets lucky again with the WS featuring big market and recognizable teams on at least one side. Had the Yanks or Cubs been in there man this rating might be even higher like it was last year.

    I haven’t seen Chicago PD yet but last week was amazing and I stayed away from the reactions this week because I haven’t seen it yet so I’m not sure if last week lived up to the billing if it does I can see CPD continuing to go up like it did in viewership this week but that depends if there’s no game 7 of the World Series next Wednesday. Blindspot has to be removed from leading off which I’m sure NBC will do probably after the Olympics.

    As far as ABC and CBS goes man they keep declining and it’s scary but Survivor is hanging in there. Designated Survivor should probably get canned after the season.

    I’m enjoying Dynasty so much right now it’s probably the most enjoyable low-rated show I’m watching on the networks right now. It keeps getting better every episode. It’s starting to come into its own too I was really having fun watching last night’s episode on DVR late a tonight. The show deserves better numbers but I feel there’s a real disconnect with the show’s audience and The CW it needs those Netflix viewers fast but nobody at least in the states can watch it until after the season finale so that’s a long time from now. I still think The CW no matter how low the ratings get will keep the show for a second season I’m sure they’ll want to see how it performs on Netflix first domestically and internationally. Hell Jane and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend have low numbers too and keep getting renewed because of those other financial avenues so we’ll see what happens but I’ll keep watching Dynasty until they pull the plug on it.

    • Did I read some months ago that the CW was in danger of disappearing because its contracts within some major markets were going to expire without extensions? I assume that the stations indeed signed up for more years?
      Did you watch the original Dynasty? Is this one a sequel? Or is it the same characters placed in today’s world?

      • The CW’s original affiliate agreement for for ten years and that expired before last season. Most of the stations renewed their agreement. The only major change was in Chicago where The CW went from WGN to WPWR. Oddly WPWR is both The CW and MyNetwork affiliate in Chicago where The CW programming airs first in primetime and then MyNetwork programming. The CW was in danger a few years ago in the Dawn Ostroff era when they had all those rich white girl shows like Gossip Girl. The switch to superhero shows and their Netflix deal saved them.

        • This is all fact and true and thanks for answering Louis’ question. I believe I did read somewhere that the ratings uptick in 2014 and 2015 from the superhero shows and Netflix deal saved the network because the way The CW was going with the rich white girl shows under Dawn Ostroff earlier that decade was killing their network this was why back in 2013 there was so much talk starting about The CW dying off.

          I imagine that the flexibility of the Netflix deal may allow them to keep their low-rated soaps now because without that Netflix deal there’s no way shows like Jane, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, and Dynasty would see more than a single season.

          • CW is even deader now than it was under Dawn Ostroff…

            The nebulous Netflix deal (nobody is paying big money for CW’s flops) gives Pedowitz an excuse to explain away megaflops killing his network. Frankly it’s hard to fathom why CBS and Warner keep that sink boat going.

            • The Netflix deal does help though but here’s the truth about that there’s probably more people watching some of their shows on there than on the actual network. That’s not good at all.

              I think The CW should’ve just went away when the contracts came up back in 2016. Something like The WB would’ve been a better option although that was tracking in low ratings as well but they had more wider ranging programming that wouldn’t alienate viewers on the big 4 who don’t want to watch these teen shows.

              • Anything that draws viewers away from CW is bad for CW. It’s not like they have good numbers to begin with…

                WBN and UPN both folded from lack of viewers. CW has even fewer…

                Someone should kill CW and either let the first-run syndication market re-form itself of start a whole different network making sure to signify that it has nothing to do with CW.

                The first error CW made was to keep the awful Dawn Ostroff who had bankrupted UPN and to let her bring Veronica Mars on, which signifies to audiences CW was just a melding of two failed networks.

                The only thing that makes me smile is to see how Karma hit them so quickly for their ageist viewpoint and declarations.

        • Frankly the superhero shows are doing even worse than Gossip Girl etc… and that’s saying something.

          I see the affiliates’ decisions more as the now “normal” Hollywood fear of doing anything different but it’s really suicidal to tie your fortunes to the disaster that is CW.

          Dawn Ostroff was awful and was remarkably so because she kept making grand statements to the media (in particular the one when she told every male not to bother to watch..!!!) but as far as result Mark Pedowitz is just as awful.

          The affiliates would be better off affiliating with Me-TV but that train has passed them by probably…

          CW has no reason to exist (neither does mynetworktv) and canning them would re-open the first-run syndication market.

          Of course, if the same bad producers were hired to furnish the shows, nothing would change.

          Tribune could and should have killed CW, but their total failure with originals show that they wouldn’t have been doing anything different. 🙁

          A sad situation all around.

          As for the “Netflix Deal”, Netflix keeps giving unbelievable numbers to the press (and they should NOT be believed) and whatever the real numbers are, the affiliates won’t see any…

          • Gossip Girl was tanking hard in its sixth and final season with eight of its ten episodes below one million viewers (only its last two episodes were above one million viewers) and one episode got only 660K viewers. For comparison Arrow is also on its sixth season and its lowest rated episode was 1.36M viewers and the crossover episodes do pretty well. The CW must be making money for CBS and Warner somehow (international, streaming, etc.) or else it would have been done by now.


            • If you kept only shows that made money, you’d keep only 3-4 shows!! I actually recommend doing that. It would help the TV industry rebound rather than keep sinking under all the renewed flops.

              Gossip Girl was a huge flop, so beating its 6th season isn’t exactly impressive.. 😉 But kudos for the research!! 🙂 I had forgotten how low Gossip Girl went before they finally pulled the plug.

              I love the “don’t worry we’re making money elsewhere” Wizard of Oz spin the networks now use… Apparently people are catching on that renewing shows with no audience can’t mean they’re hits…

      • Yeah JimU stated it perfectly they renewed the deal back around May or June 2016 and it was set to expire around that time. A lot of people including myself thought The CW would die around that time but surprisingly the contracts were renewed. Only the Chicago market changed to WPWR which used to be their old UPN affiliate and is their MyNetwork affiliate as CW was previously on WGN which became an independent network full-time after they decided not to keep The CW on their network. I believe the uptick in ratings with the superhero shows back in 2014 and 2015 and the Netflix deals saved them.

        As far as Dynasty goes I did watch the original one and loved that one as well. This one is more of a reimagining of the original series as it pretty much keeps the same premise and characters in today’s world the only real noticeable difference is that the show takes place in Atlanta instead of Denver. Also Fallon who is Blake Carrington’s daughter is much more like her father and a bitch in this version which is what makes this worth watching because Liz Gillies from Nickelodeon’s Victorious is fabulous in that role.

        Louis do you think you would be interested in watching it? If you’re used to classic primetime soaps you might like this one but you definitely don’t need to have seen the original to get into this one. Somebody else on another site told me that they never saw the original and was able to get into rather quickly.

        • Thanks to both of you for the answers on the CW. Funny how time flies…I guess it was indeed a year ago that all that was happening and I was thinking it was just a few months ago. I wonder if the new contracts were for another ten years.

          I might check it out. I remember watching Dynasty and Knots Landing back in the day (never got into Dallas, for some reason). I may try to check it out because I think it might not survive, even on the CW.

          • No problem and yeah it doesn’t feel like it was that long ago when The CW was in trouble of being defunct as a network. That’s the thing though that wasn’t made clear was on how many years the contracts are, if they aren’t 10 years or more than 5 years then they will be at this point again in the early part of the next decade.

            Yeah it’s a great watch to me I think it will be up to your speed because it blends in a great mix of the classic primetime soaps and today’s very version of the soaps. I would recommend binging it though because I always want more when it goes off. LOL! The Dallas reboot is still better to me but the Dynasty reboot is enjoyable pretty much underrated at this point. I would love to see a Knots Landing reboot at some point too or Falcon Crest.

            That’s the reason why I got into it because it’s airing on The CW they always keep shows outside of ratings but had this aired on the big 4 I might’ve never checked it out with these low numbers.

    • What do you propose NBC put in the lead off spot for Wednesday?

      I am enjoying the Blacklist this season. I figure at some point it will be a Friday show.

      • Blacklist pretty great this season, it sucks that so many viewers left it over the past couple of years. I think it eventually joins Blindspot over on Fridays after the Olympics. That’s a better night for it at this point.

        My suggestion for 8pm is either one of the new dramas they got coming in midseason but I don’t feel confident about them doing better than Blacklist but I would love to see something younger-skewing occupy that timeslot like a talent competition. World of Dance would’ve been a great option but it can only air in the summer. If NBC can develop something similar to AGT that only lasts an hour like WoD that would be good. Next season I would like to see This Is Us get that slot to boost a new drama like Miami Vice or Nancy Drew at 9pm.