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CBS Tops Opening Season Thursday

Modest Tune-in for New Dramas 'Notorious' on ABC and 'Pitch' on Fox

What follows are the fast affiliate results for Thursday, September 22 broken out by network and by each half-hour.

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 12.42 million, ABC: 6.39, NBC: 6.22, Fox: 3.93, CW: 1.14

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 4.0 rating/14 share, ABC: 1.7/ 6, NBC: 1.3/ 5, Fox: 0.9/ 3, CW: 0.3/ 1


Thursday Night Football

-Honorable Mention:
Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)

Pitch (Fox), How To Get Away With Murder (ABC), The Blacklist (NBC)

Rosewood (Fox), Notorious (ABC)


8:00 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy (season premiere)
Viewers: 8.57 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 9 (#2)

CBS – NFL Kick-Off
Viewers: 9.46 million (#1), A18-49: 2.7/11 (#1)

NBC – Superstore (season premiere)
Viewers: 5.45 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 6 (#3)

Fox – Rosewood (season premiere)
Viewers: 3.62 million (#4), A18-49: 0.7/ 3 (#4)

CW – The Flash (R)
Viewers: 1.35 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)


8:30 p.m.

ABC – Grey’s Anatomy (season premiere)
Viewers: 8.60 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 9 (#2)

CBS – Thursday Night Football (Houston Texans at New England Patriots)
Viewers: 13.27 million (#1), A18-49: 4.0/14 (#1)

NBC – The Good Place (time period premiere)
Viewers: 5.17 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 5 (#3)

Fox – Rosewood (season premiere)
Viewers: 3.56 million (#4), A18-49: 0.7/ 2 (#4)

CW – The Flash (R)
Viewers: 1.28 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)


9:00 p.m.

ABC – Notorious (series premiere)
Viewers: 5.69 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2t)

CBS – Thursday Night Football (Houston Texans at New England Patriots)
Viewers: 14.53 million (#2), A18-49: 4.6/16 (#1)

NBC – Chicago Med (season premiere)
Viewers: 6.77 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#2t)

Fox – Pitch (series premiere)
Viewers: 4.08 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#4)

CW – Supernatural (R)
Viewers: 1.04 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)


9:30 p.m.

ABC – Notorious (series premiere)
Viewers: 5.16 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#3t)

CBS – Thursday Night Football (Houston Texans at New England Patriots)
Viewers: 13.64 million (#2), A18-49: 4.6/15 (#1)

NBC – Chicago Med (season premiere)
Viewers: 7.13 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#2)

Fox – Pitch (series premiere)
Viewers: 4.47 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#3t)

CW – Supernatural (R)
Viewers: 864,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)


10:00 p.m.

ABC – How To Get Away with Murder (season premiere)
Viewers: 5.31 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#2)

CBS – Thursday Night Football (Houston Texans at New England Patriots)
Viewers: 12.56 million (#1), A18-49: 4.3/15 (#1)

NBC – The Blacklist (season premiere)
Viewers: 6.57 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)


10:30 p.m.

ABC – How To Get Away with Murder (season premiere)
Viewers: 5.00 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#2)

CBS – Thursday Night Football (Houston Texans at New England Patriots)
Viewers: 11.08 million (#1), A18-49: 3.9/14 (#1)

NBC – The Blacklist (season premiere)
Viewers: 6.23 million (#2), A18-49: 1.2/ 5 (#3)

Source: Nielsen Media Research


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  1. From CBS


    Thursday Night Football Dominates in Primetime on CBS and NFL Network

    CBS and NFL Network’s telecast of THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL earned an average overnight household rating/share of 12.5/21, +5% from last year’s 11.9/20 for the second week of TNF, which featured Washington-New York Giants (9/24/15), according to Nielsen metered market ratings for Sept. 22.

    Coverage of New England’s 27-0 victory over Houston on CBS and NFL Network dominated primetime ratings from 8:00-11:00 PM, ET, averaging a household rating/share of 11.5/20, up +2% from last year.

    Last night’s Thursday premiere week primetime average rating of 11.5/20 beat each of the broadcast networks: +283% better than FOX (3.0/5), +174% better than NBC (4.2/7), and +145% better than ABC (4.7/8).

    Last night’s game HH rating/share peaked at 13.6/23 from 9:00 -9:30 PM, ET.

  2. Glad to see Pitch was able to grow out of DOA Rosewood. Notorious came in even lower than the low expectation I had! NBC comedies not as bad as I expected and NBC at least was pretty stable from 8-11.


    Live + Same Day Results:

    ABC Thursday Prime (8-11pm – 6.4 million and 1.7/6 in AD18-49): Opposite CBS’ Thursday Night Football (New England Patriots- Houston Texans), ABC finished as the non-sports leader on season premiere Thursday in Adults 18-49 (1.7/6), outdelivering runner-up NBC by 3% (Superstore/The Good Place/Chicago Med/The Blacklist = 1.3/5) and nearly doubling Fox with its drama premieres (+89% over Rosewood/Pitch = 0.9/3). With its Thursday dramas consistently delivering big increases in TV Playback, ABC will considerably close the Adult 18-49 gap with CBS on the night in Live + 3 Day and Live + 7 Day ratings.

    · ABC’s returning dramas, Grey’s Anatomy and How to Get Away with Murder (tie) stood as the Top 2 entertainment programs on Thursday in Adults 18-49. In addition, ABC’s Notorious debuted as the #1 new show on Thursday in viewers and young adults.

    Grey’s Anatomy (8-9pm – 8.6 million and 2.4/9 in AD18-49): At 8pm, the 13th season premiere of ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy dominated its entertainment competition in the hour with Total Viewers (8.6 million) and Adults 18-49 (2.4/9). Grey’s grew over its May finale (8.2 million and 2.3/9 on 5/19/16) in viewers (+5%) and young adults (+4%) to deliver its best results since October and February – since 10/22/15 and 2/11/16, respectively.

    Notorious (9-10pm – 5.4 million and 1.2/4 in AD18-49): At 9pm, ABC’s series debut of Notorious beat out Fox’s series premiere of Fox’s Pitch in the hour by 1.1 million viewers (5.4 million vs. 4.3 million) and 9% in Adults 18-49 (1.2/4 vs. 1.1/4). Notorious held exactly even ABC’s most recent drama debut on the night in Adults 18-49, matching of The Catch premiere in March (1.2/4 on 3/24/16).

    How to Get Away with Murder (10-11pm – 5.2 million and 1.4/5 in AD18-49): At 10pm, ABC’s How to Get Away with Murder opened as the #1 entertainment show, beating NBC’s premiere of The Blacklist by 8% in Adults 18-49 (1.4/5 vs. 1.3/4). HTGAWM held even with its May finale in Adults 18-49 and jumped 20% in Adults 18-34 (1.4/5 and 1.2/2 on 3/17/16, respectively).


    “Superstore” and “Chicago Med” are tied for the #2 rating of the night for entertainment programming on the Big 4 in 18-49, behind only “Grey’s Anatomy.” “Chicago Med” is the #2 entertainment show the night in total viewers, boosting NBC to rank as the #1 entertainment network in total viewers from 9-11 p.m.

    The second season premiere of “Superstore” (1.4/6 in 18-49, 5.4 million viewers overall from 8-8:30 p.m. ET):
    · Grabs NBC’s best regular-program rating in the slot since Oct. 1, 2015 (1.5).

    · Delivers NBC’s best regular-program result in total viewers in the time period since Sept. 24, 2015 (7.0 million).

    · Ties as the #2 entertainment show of the night on the Big 4 in 18-49, behind only “Grey’s Anatomy.”

    · Retains 100% of last February’s season finale in 18-49 (1.4 vs. 1.4 at 8 p.m. on Monday, Feb. 22) and grows +16% in total viewers (5.449 million vs. 4.683 million).

    · Is up +40% versus NBC’s average in the slot last season in 18-49 (1.4 vs. 1.0, L+SD non-sports).

    · L+7: Last season, “Superstore” grew by +31% in L+7 vs. L+SD in 18-49 rating (from a 1.57 to a 2.06) and by +1.1 million viewers overall (5.5 million to 6.6 million).

    · Non-Linear Viewership: Last season “Superstore” averaged an additional 1.93 rating in 18-49 on non-linear digital platforms, making it NBC’s highest rated show on a non-linear basis.

    The regular-slot debut of “The Good Place” (1.3/5 in 18-49, 5.2 million viewers overall from 8:30-9 p.m. ET)::
    · Retains 93% of its “Superstore” lead-in in adults 18-49 and 95% in total viewers.

    · Retains 100% in women 18-49, women 25-54 and men 18-34.

    · Equals NBC’s best regular-program rating in the slot since Oct. 1, 2015 in 18-49 (1.6).

    · Grows +30% versus NBC’s average in the slot last season in 18-49 (1.3 vs. 1.0, L+SD non-sports).

    The second season premiere of “Chicago Med” (1.4/5 in 18-49, 7.0 million viewers overall from 9-10 p.m. ET):
    · Ranks #1 in the time period among entertainment programs on the Big 4 networks in adults 18-49 and total viewers.

    · It’s the first time NBC has ranked #1 non-sports in the time period with in-season regular programming versus Big 4 regularly scheduled entertainment competition in more than five years (since May 19, 2011 with the “Office” Season 7 finale) and the first time during a premiere week in 15 years (since Sept. 27, 2001 with “Will & Grace” and “Just Shoot Me”).

    · In total viewers, it’s the first time NBC has won the time period among non-sports shows during premiere week with regular programming versus Big 4 regularly scheduled entertainment competition in 17 years (since Sept. 23, 1999 with “Frasier” and “Stark Raving Mad”).

    · Is the #2 entertainment show of the night on the Big 4 in total viewers and tied for #2 in 18-49.

    · Will add substantial viewership via time-shifting and VOD – last season, “Chicago Med” increased by +48% in 18-49 rating (from a 1.71 to a 2.53) and +2.8 million viewers overall (7.9 million to 10.7 million) going from L+SD to L+7

    The fourth season debut of “The Blacklist” (1.3/4 in 18-49, 6.4 million viewers overall from 10-11 p.m. ET):
    · Ranks #1 among entertainment programs in the time period ahead of ABC’s “How to Get Away With Murder” in total viewers.

    · Pulls within 0.1 of a rating point of “How to Get Away With Murder” in 18-49 (1.3 vs. 1.4), ties “HTGAWM” in adults 25-54 and tops the ABC drama in all key adult-male demos.

    · Equals its highest rating since April 14 in 18-49 (1.4).

    · Maintains 100% of last season’s finale in 18-49 (1.3 vs. 1.3 at 9 p.m. on May 19).

    · Will grow dramatically via time-shifting and VOD – last season, “The Blacklist” increased by +98% in 18-49 rating (from a 1.42 to a 2.81) and +4.8 million viewers overall (6.8 million to 11.6 million) going from L+SD to L+7

    In Late-Night Metered Markets Thursday Night:

    · In Nielsen’s 56 metered markets, household averages were: “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” 2.4/6; “Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” delayed by an NFL overrun; and ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” 1.9/5.

    · In the 25 markets with Local People Meters, adult 18-49 ratings were: “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” 0.7/4; “Late Show,” delayed by an NFL overrun; and “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” 0.5/3.

    · From 12:35-1:05 a.m. ET, ABC’s “Nightline” averaged a 1.3/4 in metered-market households and a 0.3/2 in 18-49 in the Local People Meters.

    · From 12:35-1:35 a.m. ET, ratings were: “Late Night with Seth Meyers,” 1.1/4 in metered-market households; CBS’s “Late Late Show,” delayed by an NFL overrun. In the 25 markets with Local People Meters, averages were: “Late Night,” 0.4/3 in 18-49; “Late Late Show,” delayed by an NFL overrun.

    · At 1:35 a.m., “Last Call with Carson Daly” averaged a 0.7/3 in metered-market households and a 0.2/2 in adults 18-49 in the 25 markets with local people meters.

    NOTE: Primetime results are based on “fast affiliate time period” data from Nielsen Media Research. All ratings are “live plus same day” unless otherwise indicated.

  5. I got to give credit where credit is due towards the people on the other sites who thought Thursday would be a disaster compared to the first three nights of the new season. I personally didn’t think it was going to be this bad but this is proof that football draws from all demographics but even the last couple of years since TNF had been on broadcast TV it hadn’t been this bad.

    Even without Tom Brady the Pats are still a huge draw and the game was unwatchable and one-sided but still dominated the competition and affected them enough to the point where we’re talking about a Thursday for most shows.

    Starting with ABC, Grey’s got the night off to a great start but it feels real naked on an island by itself. Grey’s was the good news but Notorious was the really bad news flopping right out of the gate and not even getting sampled. When you look at its numbers compared to Scandal’s season premiere last year these numbers are scary low. Notorious is already DOA and has to be replaced probably our first cancellation of the season from the freshmen shows this year. My feelings were right before the season started that ABC would not do well there with Notorious and should’ve had Designated Survivor here especially considering DS didn’t premiere as high as it should’ve for a super hyped show.

    DS definitely should’ve been in the of the 9pm slots as I feel like it’s about to really drop in the next few weeks not because of the show itself but the slot because that’s a tough slot. They can still make that move right now while it’s not too late if DS starts to really drop or move one of the Sunday shows over. Another move is one of the Sunday dramas move there or moving HTGAWM up an hour and replaying something at 10pm. How to Get Away with Murder is the biggest disappointment of the shows to premiere over 14 million viewers from the last couple of seasons as it has not aged well at all but it did grow out of Notorious and get the lineup back on track.

    NBC had a rough night as well but for me it was expected. Starting with the comedies a really disappointing performance out of Superstore I actually thought it would start out in the high 1s and get over 7 million viewers as it wasn’t like the football game started in that half-hour either it started more around 8:30pm. I never got jazzed up on the Superstore hype from last season it was more of a product from NBC’s comedies struggles and they settled for less. If NBC truly had a comedy hit that performed more like the ABC or CBS comedies then I could see but this show is limited and nothing special. NBC can do without it honestly and another comedy that they can definitely do without and cancel this season is The Good Place which showed how much of a fraud it was from Monday. People got too jazzed up from those Voice numbers now it comes back to reality. The Good Place simply failed and the scary part about it is that it’s not anywhere near done dropping and BBT hasn’t even come yet although it would be facing the comedy after BBT which will do well and effect it enough. One last note about this hour to remember, Heroes Reborn which had horrible ratings after its premiere had 6-7 million viewers and a 2.0 for its premiere so yeah OUCH!

    Now for Chicago Med and The Blacklist, I was wondering why people were so hard on Blindspot from the night before considering that wasn’t its season premiere. Blindspot’s ratings are right in these show’s range. I always felt like that last year with Laura as well. Now Blindspot’s numbers aren’t looking so bad in comparison. Blindspot honestly is a better fit with Chicago Med and The Blacklist lineup than the comedies. Chicago Med is still a new show and I thought NBC put it on its own too fast. I always applauded NBC in the past for leaving Chicago PD on behind SVU but they made a huge mistake here as NBC should’ve never picked up Timeless which will fail on them eventually. This Is Us should’ve aired on Mondays at 10pm and they could’ve left Chicago Med alone on Tuesdays and let it grow there with The Voice and Chicago Fire. It’s not that bad for Chicago Med considering it grew quite a bit in viewership and got a solid 1.4 so it was a solid performance but disappointing because NBC promoted it heavily during the Olympics. I think with the timeslot being weak now Chicago Med might be able to grow the Grey’s audience over there it can probably grow as the season goes along but the trouble for Med is that the lead-ins are really bad. The Blacklist is no longer on an island now by itself so it can do what Med is doing.

    As for FOX this was expected as Rosewood was just too weak without Empire and that effected Pitch’s ability to get sampled. FOX should’ve paired it with Empire or premiered it with Empire this week and premiered Lethal Weapon next week. FOX is the idiot network so no surprise they made this blunder. Honestly baseball shows throughout history never really work but at least there was some growth but this is a true disappointment and flop for FOX. Pitch has a great story but it should’ve been a feature movie instead.

    • Superstore got a huge push by NBC on the sister cable networks and to little avail.

      HTGAWM never was a hit. It premiered well and then it was a big, long slide. People don’t seem to want to notice those slides and are surprised when the show doesn’t perform the next year(s). It was already a ratings dud last year and not one that should have been renewed.

      Not impressed like you were by Chicago Med’s 7 million viewers. and The Blacklist at 6 is ebbing lower and lower. Only looks good because NBC is happy with any scripted show over 4 million viewers…

      • NBC can try as hard as they want to get the show seen but nobody outside of the audience that’s into it will watch it. They couldn’t even maintain more than half of the viewers they got out of the Olympics. This show is limited and done in my opinion. I’m not sure if NBC will ever find a comedy that’s a true hit.

        That’s true about Murder it really started to shed viewers quickly after the premiere. I never looked at it as a true hit just a solid ratings player in the first season then once the second season came and they killed an important character off the show was done after that.

        On Chicago Med it could be bigger yes but no Chicago show has ever aired on a Thursday and the show is only in its second season plus there’s a lot of room to grow so I see it as a positive. The only bad thing I will say about The Blacklist is that the show hid behind The Voice faking the hit status in season 1.

        • NBC just loves comedies that audiences don’t…

          At this point I don’t think they’ll get any scripted hits as long as Greenblatt picks the shows. He record speaks for itself, which is a problem as there’s a whole generation of decision-makers in Hollywood used to the idea you can’t pick hits any longer (and they are really good at believing their own rationalization sadly!)

          We agree about Murder. ABC fostered its supposed hit status based on the first episode with the help of most of the media but it was at best solid (and dropping rapidly) the first season and kept dropping afterwards. That’s where those season averages are very deceiving.

          Also agree on Blacklist. NBC hyped it based on it being under the protective lead-in of The Voice. To be fair, it’s the only NBC scripted show in ten years that I heard people talk about positively in real life.

          • It’s sad that the comedies that would generate ratings are getting passed over for this critical crap.

            I’m glad you agree about Murder because I know you have knowledge of ABC’s cancellations in the past decades. Same thing with The Blacklist although they ruined that right after the Super Bowl.

            • Thinking about it, I think Women’s Murder Club may have been the last ABC show I enjoyed to date.

              It was discussed a lot on the old board and the explanation that ABC executives just hated having to work with a difficult, know-it-all hit-maker rings true.

              By the way that’s not what I think of Mr. Patterson, but how I think he was viewed.

              • I’ll tell you this when Women’s Murder Club was on it made me at that time stay at home and watch it live on Friday nights sort of like Dallas or TGIF back in the day. I agree with you it’s the last ABC drama I really enjoyed. I caught some of the Shonda shows since then and Castle but not anywhere on the same level as WMC because WMC was simple and done right. Not a perfect show but campy and enjoyable.

                That’s true because I remember how outraged viewers were about the WMC cancellation that was a big story at the time from what I remember. That’s why I call it ABC’s dumbest or worst cancellation in their network’s history but if we’re counting daytime here it’s actually All My Children and One Life to Live but for primetime it’s Women’s Murder Club.

                Rena do you feel there was a worse cancellation than WMC on ABC in its history? I can’t think of one right now.

                • Interestingly, think of what ratings WMC would have had, had it been put in Castle’s slot. I’d argue it did better than Castle in context.

                  Offhand, I can’t think of a solid show being savaged right off the bat by its own network the way WMC was.

                  At FOX, Futurama was sabotaged by the network, but not immediately like WMC.

                  There was also at FOX the cancellation of The Critic, which was retaining 97% of The Simpsons’ audience, something Family Guy and others never managed to do.

  6. A night of losers for the most part…

    CBS: TNF of course succeeded so lets just skip CBS though the ratings seem low to me

    ABC: Greys did well, this old titan still has some juice though I should drop to the low 2’s by next week and will probably be in the high 1’s as the season progresses since it is once again the only standout. Notorious collapsed IMO and the drop at the half 15% isn’t good, expect sub 1 demos as early as next week. HTGAWM came in soft but at least it rose from that piss-poor lead-in…still the numbers are off and it barely beat its NBC rival

    NBC: Superstore opened up soft but a bit better than what NBC had here before…TGP dropped hard vs its Monday debut but then again it followed their number one reality show….the next couple of weeks will be interesting concerning this show but at least its surrounded by established shows. Chicago Med debuted poorly in its new slot hitting a series low but that was not unexpected. Blacklist was also down at the 10pm slot but again this was expected. The only positive is that the night was consistent, kind of like a weaker Weds night, that isn’t quite a positive but it is better than last season where the night was a disaster.

    FOX: Speaking of disasters Rosewood is just that DISASTER. Horrible premier numbers and while Pitch did rise and held its audience throughout the hour it is still attached to Rosewood which IMO will eventually drag it down.

    • ABC definitely needs to make a move as they’ve got to take advantage of that Grey’s lead-in I would say just move Murder up an hour.

      Pitch should’ve been with Empire in my opinion but baseball shows traditionally don’t last very long in the history of broadcast television. Lethal Weapon probably should’ve been on Thursdays unless it doesn’t end up like Rosewood last season on Wednesdays.

      NBC comedies did really poor the scary part is that they haven’t even gone against BBT yet and that Heroes Reborn did 6-7 million viewers and a 2.0 in the same slot last year. That’s not good news at all for the following weeks going into November when TNF starts on the network on the 17th. I thought Superstore would do a lot better there but now I have doubts here because TGP could actually go fractional by the end of its run this season. I’m not worried about the dramas because they’ll be consistent all season but the lead-ins will keep them from being higher. Chicago Med might grow throughout the seasons depending on what ABC does here because I think they’re going after the same audiences.

    • Looking at the spin demo numbers instead of the viewership gives a false idea of Gray’s strength. It is all relative, and really relative to the rest of ABC’s night which is now ratings-dead.

  7. Reviews

    Designated Survivor: I first have to say that I believe this show is a bit reckless, reckless in the premise concerning this terrorist attack…TV does not reflect society it influences society and I could see some yahoo thinking of doing this, in that respect this show is very reckless. As for the show itself I must admit I enjoyed the hour of television and Sutherland did a great job on the show, the kids got on my nerves a bit I believe they should have a minor role on this….the wife though IMO is miscast. To me she was not that believable and I just didn’t care for her. I will say this premier episode had a few exaggerated “political” moments . Giving the nuke briefcase to the President with no accountability for him was kind of stupid…it’s a bit more in-depth than that, also the sequence of action reminded me of President Bush in 2001 after 9/11, his actions (now history) appear to have been very restrained as we saw the war-hawks (as they are called) pushing for war…I’m sure he had that too. Back to the show, since Sutherland was a low level cabinet member it is possible that he has not been tainted by politics yet so his agenda is IMO realistic. The show intrigued me and I will continue to watch, sadly I expect the show to change (ya I’m a cynic) where the politicians become so concerned with the well-being of the people and are portrayed as people who care….people let’s get this straight, politicians don’t serve us, they serve themselves and the special interests….if this show turns to sappy I will stop watching. I would love to see it get darker and show the bribes and the “good people” slowly change. Again I will keep watching as the show can go in many directions

  8. Tonight will be interesting for a Friday as ABC, CBS, and FOX but a real shame NBC gave up on this night though after trouble with the night, I think if they kept Laura they could’ve had something going here with that and Dateline.

    The Exorcist will be an interesting player, I have no interest in personally although I loved the first two movies of the movie franchise. Although FOX has turned into a horrible network and I don’t consider it a big network anymore more like a netlet now this was an aggressive move that I really liked. I think Exorcist could’ve easily aired on a weeknight so we’ll see how it does as the lead-in is decent.

    I didn’t watch Last Man Standing last year because I was watching Undateable but I will get back into it and btw the show is doing pretty well in syndication on Hallmark Channel and I heard in Chicago it airs every night at 8pm locally on WGN the station that used to host The CW in that market. It replaced The CW with LMS and I’m interested in seeing those local numbers whenever they become available to see how it compares with The CW in that market. LMS and Dr. Ken are likely to still do the same numbers they did last year don’t expect anything different there.

    CBS will be very interesting with MacGyver because most reboots have not done well in the past 10 years on broadcast TV. MacGyver could do well considering Hawaii Five-0 has done very well on the night. The show reminds me of Supergirl a little bit where it could actually work on The CW but it’s still mature enough for the older audiences to get into. MacGyver can go either way but CBS Fridays has been rock solid since they moved Hawaii Five-0 with Blue Bloods on this night a few years ago so I expect a great night from them in the ratings tomorrow.

    • Hell’s Kitchen and the Exorcist is an odd pairing for Fox Lol. What will the promos say? Ramsay is possessed by the devil so watch the actual show at 9 LOL That said, I am intrigued by the Exorcist series. People who watched the pilot in advance liked it. I honestly have no clue what will happen. People said Grimm was out there and it debuted to over a 2 Demo. I loved the first movie and the third movie. You like the second one? o.O It is so bad even the director hates it. Nostalgia critic did a review of it Lol

      Love Last Man Standing and Dr. Ken. How very strange at how booked my Friday is! Especially when the last season of Vampire Diaries returns.

      • It sure is an odd pairing LOL! I really can’t predict at all how it will actually do especially since Fridays itself can be pretty unpredictable. Grimm is a great example of something that caught people by surprise when it debuted and did well out of the gate. The good reviews may help some people sample it. It could do better than expected or it could be another victim of Friday nights. I think Hell’s Kitchen will be a better lead-in for Exorcist than Rosewood was for Pitch. Will be interesting we will see what happens there.

        I have no interest in the series itself but I don’t mind seeing it do well especially since it’s a scripted show on a Friday night that’s on FOX. I root for most scripted shows to do well on this night so the networks won’t ever turn it to a complete wasteland like they did with Saturdays. Part 3 of the movie franchise was decent but I didn’t really like it. I’m probably one of the few people who liked Part 2 I think Linda Blair just made the movie for me plus she was older and hotter. LOL! Part 1 is just legendary so I don’t feel like it’s right to even have an opinion on it honestly.

        As for LMS and Dr. Ken I really liked Ken when I got into it towards the end of the season. I find it way more better than the other ABC comedies that air earlier in the week. I can’t wait to see them both tonight.

        That is an odd transition from family friendly comedies to Vampire Diaries but Vampire Diaries fits as a Friday show so now you can do Vampire Diaries and Exorcist now if you like The Exorcist or DVR Vampire Diaries and watch it after The Exorcist if you want to watch LMS and Ken live.

        • The survey here says there’s lots of interest for MacGyver. You’d have to pay me and my guess is that it’ll do poorly and so will Exorcist.

          • Surprisingly you were wrong, I didn’t know how it would play out honestly but that doesn’t mean the show will remain above 10 million viewers every week it could easily fall. Exorcist failed completely!

            • I was surprised. I thought it would do measurably worse. I still think it’ll ebb for the rest of the season.

              Exorcist did worse than I thought (or given it’s on FOX exactly like I thought! 😉 ).

              It’s true for all shows that you have to see further episodes to really know.

              I keep saying it but Intelligence is still the highest-rated premiere of any scripted show in years and was a ratings casualty by episode 2…

              • These next few Fridays will tell the story on it for sure. I’ll be shocked if it gets to Blue Bloods levels by November.

                I just don’t fall for these shows that do well during their premieres or even manage to stay high after their first few episodes. November always tells the story for me because if a show starts really sliding by that point then those premiere numbers mean nothing.

                • Premiere numbers typically used to represent the ability of the network to launch the show, the strength of the lead-in, the appeal of the stars and the relevance of the topic.

                  CBS is the last network to still have a bit of street cred launching a show (but it’s ebbing fast). NBC has its competition shows as lead-ins. The others have little left now that DWTS is at really low levels.

                  • Time is running out on these networks because some of these competition shows won’t be around forever or provide huge lead-ins like this so pretty soon all of these shows will be on their own and not hide behind big lead-ins anymore. CBS will be the last one standing likely with the lead-ins since they still target the right audience but the rest of them are dead that’s why FOX is done as a network right now they don’t have anything outside of the NFL and they don’t use that one or Empire and that show is fading fast.

                    • I generally agree with you (sadly as I would like it to be otherwise!) but would put it differently.

                      For me, this is 10% caused by the internet/other entertainment options and 90% self-inflicted immolation.

                      The networks held the audience and sure, they’d get a smaller share of it as time went on (like theatrical movies which is an industry in secular decline as a percentage of GDP but can maintain itself thanks to population growth) but they could have been very healthy for a long, long time.

                      It’s the baffling collapse in quality that has caused the problem, and you are right that networks like FOX or CW have no longer credibility with the public to launch shows (but as Empire showed if you have something that’s appealing you can build audiences up as it did the first year, only to decline as, from what I heard, the quality ebbed).

                      NBC is the same when it comes to scripted shows (especially comedies). Two decades of insisting hey made huge hits everyone loved when they were flopping with the likes of The Office and 30Rock has killed any credibility they have when they say “watch this new show – it’s great”…

                      FOX and NBC cling to football as a life raft, as exemplified by NBC buying the over-priced Thursday Night games that CBS was losing money on. Bob
                      Greenblatt decided it was better for his career to lose more money (which also tells you how out of touch and frankly unqualified to run that kind of business the boards and CEOs of the conglomerates operating the network are).

                      I mean which other industry would let the head of one of its companies decide to lose more money?

  9. Love Rosewood as a show but those ratings are awful. The “halo effect” that Empire gave it is officially off. Fox is in for a huge disaster this year. They are in the same boat NBC use to be in before they fixed some of their problems. And just imagine, Fox doesn’t have American Idol anymore to occupy hours in the spring either anymore.

    Loved the Blacklist premiere. That’s a touch down but better than NBC has put in that slot in recent memory. When football is done, I am curious if any fluctuations happen on the shows.

    • Fox has been in for a huge disaster the last 5-6 years at least… 🙁

      Except for the Empire 1st season and the fact it is now an OK performer that only looks great because the rest of the schedule is like a NewGirl joke: bad! 🙂

  10. I’m very curious to see DVR numbers for premiere week. I expect them to be higher overall than last season, and shows that seem just okay (Chicago Med, HTGAAAM, Blacklist) in the live numbers may look a lot better in the L+3’s.

  11. Flop-a-rooni-McFaddy!!!

    Incredibly awful numbers for How To Get Away With Murder, The Blacklist and the new shows.

    Thursday remains a desolate zone when it used to be the diamond of network TV…

      • They’re just too in love with being “edgy”.

        Of course, as I like to say, it’s really fake-edgy. All those shows are caricatures of what really funny shows would be like.

        Also, it has nothing to do with how they’re produced. They’re failing because of the writing and the choice of fake-edginess vs. real humor (if that makes sense to you).