Limited Results For Howie Mandel Special on The CW

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1. My directory had that Just for Laughs as a repeat. Was it not?

   • I didn’t watch it but I assume it was new because I don’t think its ever aired before.

   • It was new.

2. Great rookie season for Dr. Ken but weird results lately up last week after a LMS rerun and fractional after a new LMS but everything looked down this week.

   Blue Bloods still remains the MVP on this night just an incredible player. Hawaii Five-0 should get renewed it’s been doing great under the radar all year long and has served as a good lead-in for Blue Bloods for a couple of seasons now. This combo should remain untouched for CBS going into next season.

   Nick Cannon officially doing worse than Undateable now and Grimm really needs to go as it doesn’t fit with anything else on this network and that’s a problem. NBC needs to completely revamp this night and do what CBS did with a more older-skewing lineup of dramas with Dateline.

   Just For Laughs had better results than TVD and TO in viewership but lower in the demo surprisingly. Can’t wait to hear the Tribune and CW decision which should be coming up any point between now and May.

   • So, what will happen if the Tribune/CW agreement is not renewed?

     • The CW stays alive either way but The CW will lose those Tribune affiliates in many major markets which could really effect their ratings even more next season. If Tribune does not reach an agreement with The CW then The CW will need to start negotiating if they already haven’t with other local affiliates in those markets in order to keep their network airing in those markets.

       Those Tribune affiliates will have a chance of using those two hours for what they feel can be higher rated programming leading into their 10pm shows or newscasts which could be syndicated programming or local sports or rumored to be possibly a new sixth major broadcast network where Tribune partners with somebody to form that network within the next year or two. That will be super huge if that happened. I would love to see The WB be revived back. I think it’s more likely though that they go the syndication route and bring over their WGN America programming to those hours and go the ION or MyNetworkTV route.

       From what I’m hearing talks have broken down and not going good at the moment as the streaming service seems to be main thing disrupting these negotiations as Tribune wants no part of that streaming service. The CW renewed all 11 series because of the streaming service. So it’s very likely you will see no agreement be made but it will come down to the 11th hour where something could get worked out.

       This is going to hurt The CW badly because The CW airs on Tribune-owned stations in the three largest markets, WPIX in New York, KTLA in Los Angeles and WGN in Chicago. Tribune has a total of 13 stations showing the CW. The last agreement between the two was signed in 2006, when CBS and Warner Bros. started the network. That deal expires in August so we’re getting close to the finish line with these negotiations.

       • Thanks for the info. I did think I remembered reading back in the fall that it affected the NYC, LA, and Chicago markets. I would think that it would be a blow to the CW if they were relegated to even smaller stations in those markets.

         • No problem Louis thank you for asking a really good question because this storyline is about to get hotter and hotter over the next two months going into May. I think a deal needs to be reached by May at the latest due to Upfronts.

           It would be a huge blow for them to be regulated to smaller stations. Their best bet at this point is to get on MyNetworkTV affiliates but in those markets that network has a smaller reach for viewers locally than the bigger Tribune stations do. You could a possible 20-30% decline in their ratings next year.

           The bigger question for me is what Warner Bros. plans on doing because I think I read way back in 2014 that they wanted to get away from CBS and form their own network but I’m not sure if they will do it next season since The Flash and Arrow are going to remain on The CW next year.

           • I have often wondered how the CW has managed to stay on the air at all. They are doing better now with their younger-skewing shows but I was not sure if they were getting enough income from international sales, streaming, and dvd sales to be profitable.

             • Their advertising revenue was never that big but what you brought up from the international sales, streaming, and DVD sales were always truly supporting the life of that network as I remember seeing those rare reports of how they were doing back in 2012. They’ve managed it but they’ve been like on a thin red line with it. I know for sure that Tribune says that their affiliates were always disappointed with their lead-ins especially affiliates with local news.

               • I know that the late news shows depend a lot on lead-in although in my market, the news that is #1 has not had the best lead-ins.

                 • Yeah in some markets the local news on those affiliates are doing well regardless but in some markets they’re struggling as well. I think it will be a huge benefit at this point for them move on from The CW and work on finding something that can be stronger leading into those local newscasts.

                   • I have also wondered at the saturation point of networks that rely pretty much solely on syndicated repeats. There is a finite number of shows that bring in many viewers.

                   • Yeah the market has really filled up with that kind of content and with the lack of new hits coming into the syndication markets especially comedies since so many comedies barely get an audience for original episodes in the past few years I don’t know how long they’ll be able to rely on that so much. I think those Tribune affiliates are in good position to go with a sixth network approach instead.

                   • Great point!!

                     And that number is dwindling.

                     Of course, there’s always the option of a renewed first-run syndicated market.

                     it gave us Babylon 5 and Star Trek TNG in the past (and the huge hit known as Baywatch!)

                 • CW lead-in have been disastrous for its affiliates.

                   The idea, which was trotted out a few months back, tat CW affiliates are ecstatic with the bad ratings is, of course, ridiculous.

               • Ancillary sales are always mentioned to explain how not having viewers works for a network.

                 The problem is what ancillary sales? How big can they be when audiences can’t be bothered to watch premieres for free?

             • You are right to ask the question and it’s very clear CW never made any money.

               It has been run as if it was meant to fail.

               As for “doing better”, they’re really not except maybe marginally or in comparison to collapsed FOX and NBC ratings.

               They are the example of how the US TV industry imploded on a diet of cronyism.

       • I don’t understand how CW renewed its flops wholesale “because of the streaming service”.

         Would you care to explain?

         [grumpiness aimed at CW’s catastrophic management not you of course. 🙂 ]

     • Tribune is likely to launch its own network, which would be good news except for the pallid shows Tribune has bought for TBS.

       Can’t be any worse than CW however.

       If it happens, watch the street teamers explain that it’s great for CW!!!

       My preference would be to see a renewed market for first-run syndication dramas, but I’m not holding my breath.

   • LMS isn’t even solid and Dr. Ken is worse…

     ABC, by sticking with its failures is committing self-immolation.

     On Grimm, if it were a hit, nobody would worry that it doesn’t fit with the rest of the network… Come to think of it, its ratings fit just fine… 😉

3. Deal or No Deal should definitely be revived and obviously it can survive longer if it isn’t over scheduled like it was before. Deal or No Deal would actually be a great option for Fridays and could give shows a decent lead-in.

   Can’t wait to see Sunday’s results for NBC with Little Big Shots and Carmichael which I can see doing a little better out of LBS as The Voice don’t help comedies very well so I’m a little bit worried for Crowded on Tuesday as I hope that one succeeds for them.

   • I would like to see it return. As always, NBC burnt it out, but I still think there is life in “Deal or No Deal.”

     • Me too and I think people would be ready for a game show to return in primetime. If the networks can just find a way to keep them to a weekly basis they’ll have a longer life.

4. FROM ABC

   ABC Friday Prime (8-11pm – 5.4 million and 1.2/4 in AD18-49): With its lineup returning to all originals, ABC won Friday in Adults 18-49 (1.2/4), finishing #1 on the night for the 6th time in 7 weeks.

   · At 8pm, ABC’s Last Man Standing returned steady with its most recent original two weeks ago and won its half-hour in Total Viewers (6.4 million) and Adults 18-49 (1.1/5).

   · At 8:30pm, ABC’s Dr. Ken was steady week to week in Total Viewers (4.7 million) and ran a close 2nd in its slot with Adults 18-49 (0.9/3), just 1-tenth out of a tie with CBS’ Amazing Race for the lead.

   · At 9pm, ABC’s Shark Tank rose 8% from its last original (on 2/26/16) and was Friday’s #1 TV show in Adults 18-49 (1.3/5-tie).

   · Featuring David Muir’s special report, “Breaking Point: Heroin in America,” ABC’s 20/20 drew an average audience of 4.9 million viewers, a 1.5/5 in Adults 25-54 and a 1.1/4 in Adults 18-49 during the 10 o’clock hour. In the same hour, NBC’s Dateline drew 4.2 million viewers, a 1.3/4 in Adults 25-54 and a 0.9/3 in Adults 18-49.

5. FROM CBS

   CBS Friday Live + Same Day Highlights

   “BLUE BLOODS” IS FRIDAY’S #1 BROADCAST IN VIEWERS, A18-49 AND A25-54

   “THE AMAZING RACE” PLACES FIRST IN VIEWERS AND KEY DEMOS

   “HAWAII FIVE-0” WINS ITS TIME PERIOD IN VIEWERS

   CBS TOPS FRIDAY IN VIEWERS AND A25-54

   · At 8:00 PM, THE AMAZING RACE was first in viewers (5.70m), adults 18-49 (1.0, tie) and A25-54 (1.5, tie).

   · At 9:00 PM, HAWAII FIVE-0 was first in viewers (8.01m) and averaged 1.1 in A18-49 (nc from last first-run on 2/26) and 1.7 in A25-54 (up +6% from 1.7).

   · At 10:00 PM, BLUE BLOODS was first in viewers (9.95m), A18-49 (1.3, up from last first-run on 2/26, +8% from 1.2) and A25-54 (1.8, nc). BLUE BLOODS was the night’s top program in viewers, A18-49 (tie) and A25-54 (tie).

   · For the night, CBS was first in viewers (7.89m) and A25-54 (1.6, tie).

   Note: CBS had preemptions/delays due to local college basketball in several markets. CBS ratings are tentative and subject to change.

6. FRIDAY 3/11/2016 FINAL NATIONALS: CBS and ABC Tie for Prime Time Key Demo Lead https://programminginsider.com/?p=6252